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Sir, im currently suffering from acute gout attack from yesterday and my uric acid is 9 (3-7 being normal). My left ankle area is very painful and swollen also very stiff, doctor prescribed zycolchin .5mg, indocap sr and febumac 40 but these medicines hv high side effects and would like to switch to ayurvedic medicines that lowers uric acid n relives pain but with zero or minimal side effects. Is himalaya cystone and shigru good medicines ?
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Good question. First — I want to be very clear: **acute gout attacks** (especially with very high uric acid, joint swelling and pain) are medical emergencies. Completely stopping your doctor-prescribed medicines (colchicine, indomethacin, febuxostat) *without medical supervision* is risky. Ayurvedic support can help, but should ideally be **add-on / integrative**, not a full replacement in the acute phase, unless guided by both a rheumatologist / physician and a qualified Ayurvedic doctor. With that caution, here is an evidence-informed Ayurvedic perspective on your situation, and whether **Himalaya ***** or **Shigru (Moringa)** are good choices — plus safer Ayurvedic formulations and lifestyle advice. --- ## What Ayurveda Says About High Uric Acid / Gout (“Vatarakta”) 1. **Underlying Theory** * In Ayurveda, gout (called *Vatarakta*) is often due to an imbalance of **Vata** + **Rakta/Pitta**, accumulation of “ama” (toxins), and poor metabolism of purines. * Treatment aims at *detoxifying blood (rakta), reducing inflammation, balancing doshas, and improving excretion* (e.g., via kidneys). * Panchakarma therapies like *virechana* (therapeutic purgation) or *basti* are sometimes used in classical treatment to help eliminate the toxins. ( 2. **Herbs / Medicines Commonly Recommended** Ayurvedic practitioners commonly use: * **Guduchi** (Tinospora cordifolia) — anti-inflammatory, detoxifying, helps purify blood. * **Guggulu** (Commiphora mukul) — very effective in joint inflammation. * **Triphala** — helps with digestion, removes “ama”; also supports excretion. * **Punarnava** (Boerhavia diffusa) — diuretic, helps to flush out uric acid. * **Turmeric / Curcumin** — anti-inflammatory, helps with joint pain. * **Smilax (Chopchini)** — used in chronic Vatarakta / gout. * *****Guggulu** — a classical formulation used in gout. --- ## What About *Himalaya Cystone*? * **Himalaya Cystone** is a herbal formulation marketed for kidney stones / urinary health. It is *not classically designed for gout / uric acid management*. * There is **very limited to no good clinical evidence** showing that Cystone significantly lowers uric acid. I did not find credible Ayurvedic-oriented research supporting its use specifically for hyperuricemia or gout. * Using Cystone alone as a strategy to lower uric acid during an acute gout attack is unlikely to be effective — because it’s not targeting uric acid production/excretion in the way that classical anti-gout herbs do. **Conclusion on Cystone:** Not the best choice as a primary Ayurvedic treatment for gout. --- ## What About *Shigru* (Moringa)? * “Shigru” commonly refers to **Moringa oleifera** in Ayurveda. * I did *not* find strong, reliable classical Ayurvedic sources or modern studies that specifically recommend moringa for **acute gout attacks** or for *lowering serum uric acid*. Its benefits are more general (nutritive, antioxidant) rather than specifically anti-uric acid. * Because its role in uric acid metabolism is not well-established in gout, relying on it for an acute attack would be **risky and likely inadequate**. --- ## Safer & More Appropriate Ayurvedic Medicines for Gout (Acute + Long-Term) Given your acute attack and high uric acid, better Ayurvedic support might include: 1. ******Guggulu** — Often recommended for gout; helps detoxify blood, lower inflammation, and may help excretion. 2. **Punarnava** — As mentioned, it helps flush uric acid via kidneys. 3. **Guduchi** — Detox, anti-inflammatory. 4. ******/ ****** — For joint pain and stiffness, classical rasayana. 5. **Sudarshan Churna** — to support metabolic cleansing, especially if there is “heat” or liver involvement. Also, **diet + lifestyle** changes are very important in controlling uric acid: * Avoid or reduce **purine-rich foods**: red meat, organ meats, certain seafood. * Drink **a lot of water** to help kidneys flush uric acid. * Include **anti-inflammatory foods**: turmeric, ginger, cherries or berries (some evidence in non-Ayurvedic studies too). * Gentle exercise / yoga: helps with circulation and metabolism, but avoid too much stress on the inflamed joint. --- ## Risks & Caveats * **Interactions**: Some Ayurvedic herbs could interact with your current medicines. For example, increasing diuresis (via punarnava) may affect kidney function or interact with other drugs. You must consult both your physician and an experienced Ayurvedic doctor before starting any new herbs. * **Time to Act**: Ayurvedic herbs often take time (weeks to months) to show effect on uric acid; they are not “fast-acting painkillers” like NSAIDs or colchicine. * **Quality Matters**: Use high-quality, standardized herbal products from a trusted manufacturer. Poor quality herbs may be ineffective or even harmful. * **Monitoring**: Keep monitoring your uric acid levels, kidney function, and the clinical symptoms (pain, swelling) if you transition to an integrative approach. --- ## My Recommendation (Given Your Current Situation) 1. **Do not abruptly stop** your current prescribed medicines (colchicine, indomethacin, febuxostat) without medical supervision. 2. Consult us **qualified Ayurvedic practitioner** (Vaidya) *and* inform your rheumatologist / physician. Tell them you would like to add Ayurvedic herbs like ***Guggulu, *****, *****, etc., and ask if it's safe along with your current drugs. 3. Use Ayurvedic herbs as **supportive therapy**: to reduce inflammation, improve excretion, and prevent recurrence — especially once the acute pain subsides. 4. Make **dietary and lifestyle changes** immediately (hydration, diet low in purines, gentle movement) — these are very effective in the long run. 5. Monitor: Get your uric acid test after a few weeks of adding Ayurvedic treatment to see if it's helping. --- ### Final Thought on Your Question * **Himalaya ******: Not ideal or proven for gout / uric acid lowering. * **Shigru (Moringa)**: Not a first-line Ayurvedic herb for gout; limited evidence for lowering uric acid in acute gout. * There are **better Ayurvedic options** (Guduchi, Punarnava, Guggulu, etc.) for managing gout / high uric acid — but they work gradually and are more suited for a combined approach. --- If you like, I can **design a safe Ayurvedic treatment plan** (herbs + diet + lifestyle) specifically for you (considering you're on allopathic meds) — do you want me to do that? Advice- self medication is hazardous, always consult ayurvedic doctor before taking ayurvedic medicine. Consult me personally for detail
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No need to switch every medicine has side effects if you have getting relief for existing medications and don't see any side-effects till now don't stop continue treatment. And if you want to take ayurvedic medicine along with that so you can take, there are so many medications which really can cure such diseases.
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Yes, Cystone can be part of a gout-management plan (especially for uric acid / urinary support), but on its own it’s not a powerful gout-flare medicine. Shigru (Moringa) is more of a supportive herb than a primary gout treatment. A multi-herb Ayurvedic regimen — combined with diet, hydration, and possibly panchakarma — is more effective to manage chronic high uric acid safely.
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Kashoreguggal,arogyavardinivati,pidantakvati trice a day with lukewarm water after food.ajmoda churn,vatarichurn
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Thanks for showing interest in ayurved.  You can consult online or nearest dr for root cause ayurved treatment of your problem.  Iuric acid problem is nicely treated with ayurved
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You have to get into the root of your condition.  High uric acid is just the tip of the iceberg and unless you address the root cause, things will not improve. So the first step is to get you HAIP Root Cause Analysis done that will help to find what is the reason for high uric acid. Next, follow HAIP DIET to reduce Inflammation in the body. There are many beneficial formulations that will work for uric acid but proper consultation is required for the same
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These medicines reduces the symptomatic problem. Does not resolves the main cause..This will only reduces swelling and pain. For proper treatment you need consultation.
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Better to start with Varunadi kashaya 20 mL twice daily with pinch of yavakshara. Gokshuradi guggulu 1-1-1. One of the ingredients in Varunadi kashaya is Shigru. Cystone can be taken along with the other medicines.
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Your problem needs proper treatment and management so you may consult with me through this chanal and solve your problem. .
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Noted uric acid is a bye product in metabolism surely ayurvedic management make you better tolerated and less dependent on medicine
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Hello, In an acute gout attack, the priority is to control inflammation quickly. Ayurvedic medicines help in long-term uric acid balance, but they do not give fast relief during an acute flare. Cystone is mainly for kidney stones/UTI, not useful for gout. Shigru (Moringa) helps reduce inflammation but is not enough alone when uric acid is 9 and joint swelling is present. The medicines your doctor prescribed (colchicine + indomethacin + febuxostat) are standard for acute gout. Side effects occur mainly with long-term use, not with short controlled doses. For Ayurvedic support, the useful options are: Punarnava Mandoor – helps uric acid metabolism Gokshuradi Guggul – reduces inflammation & fluid retention Dashmool Kashayam – helpful for joint swelling Low-purine diet + good hydration are essential But please remember: don’t suddenly stop allopathic medicines during an acute attack, otherwise pain may worsen.
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No dont take medicines from Himalaya theyre not real. Take Kaishore guggulu-2-0-2(A/F)BD and kokilaksha kashaya-15ml for 15 days.
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Consult ayurveda physician for proper diagnosis and root cause of ailment before consuming any medicine
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You should take ayurvedic medicines along with panchakarma treatments for proper management of pain and swelling or stiffness .
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Only taking medicines wont be enough. You need to make changes in your diet and lifestyle too
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Cannot prescribe medicine on uric acid only you need a proper checkup and especially diet but in winters it's more likely to have gout attacks. Start taking shigru and vatari vati
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